How old do you think Madotsuki is? When I first started playing the game, I thought she was an adult (18-25 range), probably because she lives alone. The thought that her room is just one room in a house didn't occur to me until much later. But after finding online Yume Nikki communities, I noticed most people seem to think she's a lot younger than that (I've seen as young as 12 suggested), which to me makes sense in some ways but not in others. Now I'm guessing she's probably in her later teens. I just can't picture her as a child.So what do you think?
How old do you think Madotsuki is?
When I first started playing the game, I thought she was an adult (18-25 range), probably because she lives alone. The thought that her room is just one room in a house didn't occur to me until much later. But after finding online Yume Nikki communities, I noticed most people seem to think she's a lot younger than that (I've seen as young as 12 suggested), which to me makes sense in some ways but not in others. Now I'm guessing she's probably in her later teens. I just can't picture her as a child.
So what do you think?
What I thought was that she was young, but she lived alone because her parents died/abandoned her and that's why she's so fucked up.
I think she's commonly thought of as a little girl because it's appealing to portray her that way. I always thought she might be in her late teens, it's my personal opinion that a child couldn't experience such morbid dreams.
I always thought she didn't live alone. If she did live alone, why won't she go out of her room? If that's where her apartment ends, where's the toilet, bathroom, stove, etc?Now, you may say the creator didn't felt a need to do that, but then what of the toilet stalls in the graffiti world and etc.? Then again, maybe the creator is fucked up and there's no method to his madness.
I always thought she didn't live alone. If she did live alone, why won't she go out of her room? If that's where her apartment ends, where's the toilet, bathroom, stove, etc?
Now, you may say the creator didn't felt a need to do that, but then what of the toilet stalls in the graffiti world and etc.?
Then again, maybe the creator is fucked up and there's no method to his madness.
Kids can have fucked up dreams. I've had very very fucked up dreams since I was a kid.I think Mado is a kid. But if the "outside world" doesn't begin just passed the door out of her room, why would she refuse to leave? So I think her apartment ends there, for whatever reason.
Kids can have fucked up dreams. I've had very very fucked up dreams since I was a kid.
I think Mado is a kid. But if the "outside world" doesn't begin just passed the door out of her room, why would she refuse to leave? So I think her apartment ends there, for whatever reason.
>>942i think she's a hikikomori in the age range of 14 - 20
>>952>Kids can have fucked up dreams. I've had very very fucked up dreams since I was a kid.So have I, but the imagery within her dreams seems too mature and too strangely systematized in places for the dreams of a child, especially one with the apparent/assumed underexposure she has. Also consider if the dreams are a result of something like Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, which doesn't usually onset completely until after adolescence.
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>Kids can have fucked up dreams. I've had very very fucked up dreams since I was a kid.
So have I, but the imagery within her dreams seems too mature and too strangely systematized in places for the dreams of a child, especially one with the apparent/assumed underexposure she has. Also consider if the dreams are a result of something like Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, which doesn't usually onset completely until after adolescence.
>>958Really? Didn't know that, interestin'.Doesn't matter. Gameplay wise, it isn't feasible for the creator to make her dreams truly chaotic. Ignoring that for the artistry of theorizin', I'd have to say I've never met an adult who can have such systematic dreams. Even lucid dreamers I've read about in psych don't have the organization and control that Mado apparently has.This is why I think she can be young too, because the power of her dreams is unlike anything studied in the real world anyway. But if she is an adult, she certainly doesn't think like one anymore.Who else connects numbers world with a kindergarten classroom?
>>958Really? Didn't know that, interestin'.Doesn't matter. Gameplay wise, it isn't feasible for the creator to make her dreams truly chaotic. Ignoring that for the artistry of theorizin', I'd have to say I've never met an adult who can have such systematic dreams. Even lucid dreamers I've read about in psych don't have the organization and control that Mado apparently has.
This is why I think she can be young too, because the power of her dreams is unlike anything studied in the real world anyway. But if she is an adult, she certainly doesn't think like one anymore.
Who else connects numbers world with a kindergarten classroom?
I imagined her as a fifteen year old. Just old enough to have experienced enough traumatic shit to create those dreams, and still young enough to fit the fact that her sprite looks childish.>>960Not necessarily, I had the same exact dream for a year on end about this strange world after the world had ended. No drugs, no trauma or anything. Just a regular person with a pretty vivid imagination. And I did explore it differently each time, it was very strange. It's probably not common, but I think possible.
I imagined her as a fifteen year old. Just old enough to have experienced enough traumatic shit to create those dreams, and still young enough to fit the fact that her sprite looks childish.
>>960Not necessarily, I had the same exact dream for a year on end about this strange world after the world had ended. No drugs, no trauma or anything. Just a regular person with a pretty vivid imagination. And I did explore it differently each time, it was very strange. It's probably not common, but I think possible.
>>960I connected the numbers world as more of an orphanage
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I connected the numbers world as more of an orphanage
>>960> Gameplay wise, it isn't feasible for the creator to make her dreams truly chaoticBasically that, there's a lot of theories we can't really send one way or the other because it's simply part of the gameplay dynamic.EDIT: Numbers world suggests to me that she liked math or computers, but now that I think of it... good connection, anon. Last edited 10/05/15(Sat)15:19.
> Gameplay wise, it isn't feasible for the creator to make her dreams truly chaotic
Basically that, there's a lot of theories we can't really send one way or the other because it's simply part of the gameplay dynamic.
EDIT: Numbers world suggests to me that she liked math or computers, but now that I think of it... good connection, anon.
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>958i can confentenly say that during my primary school years thats 11 and below i have had repeated dreams of kidnaping, public humilation with nudity, voyerism, light bondage,gore and rape. admittedly i didn't know the words for most of thoughs things at the age i had them, but none the less i had them, most of the time it was i mix or all of thoughs elements. call me fucked up, but i can confenently say that i have had dreams with mature elements at a very young age, and it didn't even scare me most of the time.so, with this coming from a real person, does it seem more likly that Madotsuki could experiance these dreams, with the phycologial problems she may have?don't forget all the young people with mental disorders aswell. the youngest person i know with a mental disorder is 13 having MPD. so you know, take the whole world in the perspective here, she may be young due to it looking appealing but that doesn't allways mean that its wrong.
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i can confentenly say that during my primary school years thats 11 and below i have had repeated dreams of kidnaping, public humilation with nudity, voyerism, light bondage,gore and rape. admittedly i didn't know the words for most of thoughs things at the age i had them, but none the less i had them, most of the time it was i mix or all of thoughs elements. call me fucked up, but i can confenently say that i have had dreams with mature elements at a very young age, and it didn't even scare me most of the time.so, with this coming from a real person, does it seem more likly that Madotsuki could experiance these dreams, with the phycologial problems she may have?don't forget all the young people with mental disorders aswell. the youngest person i know with a mental disorder is 13 having MPD. so you know, take the whole world in the perspective here, she may be young due to it looking appealing but that doesn't allways mean that its wrong.
>>965I don't doubt reoccurring dreams, but they're still disjointed and haphazard. Similar locations and settings and characters can appear, but at least in my case my reoccurring dreams are always 50% different each time they happen.>>967And the orphanage idea sounds pretty good too, but I'd say that would be mostly plausible if Mado is old enough to live on her own. I don't think she'd get emancipated and move away from an orphanage.
>>965I don't doubt reoccurring dreams, but they're still disjointed and haphazard. Similar locations and settings and characters can appear, but at least in my case my reoccurring dreams are always 50% different each time they happen.
>>967And the orphanage idea sounds pretty good too, but I'd say that would be mostly plausible if Mado is old enough to live on her own. I don't think she'd get emancipated and move away from an orphanage.
I see her as being 14-15 years old. I don't thing she is anywhere near 18-20. Her clothes are not clothes that an older women would typically wear and pigtails create the image of someone young. All of her friends/people she knows appear to be young as well. I also think that early teens is a very difficult age for some people. I saw teased in middle school and was awkward and got depressed and had very morbid, emo, strange thoughts during those hard years. I think that she is a girl going thorough puberty and was teased and her parents probably don't care about her so she became a hikkimori. She's probably shy and a little weird/quirky kid to begin with, she seemed to have hobbies/interest that most young teenagers wouldn't like. Like how she likes Aztec things instead of makeup, etc. I don't think she lives alone, I think she lives with her parents, or perhaps in some sort of boarding school dorm.