I think I just had a moment of enlightenment. Or maybe a moment of complete nonsense, but I'm not good at discerning those two.Here it comes:What if the Toriningen aren't evil at all? I know this is hard to believe because they hinder you to finish the game by sending you to somewhere you can't get out, but just see what awaits you on the end of the game. Is it possible that the Toriningen try to refrain Madotsuki from commiting suicide? I mean you can find them in the weird place where you get that decapitation-effect and they are running to you so it's hard to get the effect. Just think about it. Maybe Madotsuki is traveling somewhere where she shouldn't be in her dreams and they are trying to put a blindfold on her so she doesn't see all these disturbing things...
I think I just had a moment of enlightenment. Or maybe a moment of complete nonsense, but I'm not good at discerning those two.Here it comes:
What if the Toriningen aren't evil at all? I know this is hard to believe because they hinder you to finish the game by sending you to somewhere you can't get out, but just see what awaits you on the end of the game. Is it possible that the Toriningen try to refrain Madotsuki from commiting suicide? I mean you can find them in the weird place where you get that decapitation-effect and they are running to you so it's hard to get the effect. Just think about it. Maybe Madotsuki is traveling somewhere where she shouldn't be in her dreams and they are trying to put a blindfold on her so she doesn't see all these disturbing things...
Hey, I'm liking this one.
Interesting.... Don't birds usually represent freedom though? Maybe they aren't birds after all. (well actually no-one said they /are/ birds, its just an accepted theory)
I like this theory. i read a comic once where a girl kept sleeping because she was depressed and lost her friend and mother in a car accident. a girl kept trying to make her wake up. it turns out the girl was the one who was ina coma and her mother and friend were alive and safe. the girl kept pushing herself further and further into her dream world that she ended up destrying it and dying.I like thinking of it maybe like that, and the Toringen are trying to get mado to wake up, so they are good like in your theory.. most of the time, before you get the medama ude effect your only choice is to wake back up..
they get mad when you stab them.just sayan
You'd get mad at someone if he stabbed you with a knife too, even if he's your friend, right?
>>2854Wow what comic is this it sounds interesting
That's a little interesting, but if you're going to run with that idea, then Uboa must not be evil either for trapping her away from the rest of her dream world. "Isolation is bad" is a prevalent theme in this game, so I wouldn't put my chips on this theory. That being said, it is a nice way of looking at it...
>>3011This may or may not be helpful, but the comic the other anon is talking about is actually an anthology by a team of artists. Im not sure what the artist team was, but the comic itself is Monochrome something.. I know monochrome is in the title. I will try and look into it for you.
I like your theory, however, i think the theory of schoolgirl-toriningen is likelier.They even wear human clothes. I think they are Mado's former schoolmates who used to tease her like locking her up in closet/locker etc.Toriningen party, also something you should keep in mind.
I see all the things in Madotsuki's dream related to real life. I think Madotsuki despises people and so some of the people (toriningen) bully her or attack her while some don't but they turn against her when she attacks them (insults them). This makes me assume she goes to an all girl school?
Maybe the Toriningen aren't /evil/, but by stopping Madotsuki from killing herself they might just be trying to ensure their own existence in her mind. Maybe they represent the selfish nature of people she knew before the events of the game. Hence, why at one point you see them partying in an area that she can't reach, they're too busy thinking about themselves to worry about her, unless it somehow affects them directly.
They don't hit her to wake her up, that would be cruel, so they send her away and force her to wake up. just adding to this theory