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31750 No.1385   [Delete]   [Edit]  [Reply]

Maybe "instructions" is the single most important effect.

Think about it

The game starts off in Mado's room. She refuses to go out. So we can assume she's a recluse/depressed/etc.

What if when you first start the game, she sees the instructions; the only effect you can use while awake. What if that causes her to realize she is nothing more than a video game character doomed to repeat her reality over and over. Once her in game quest is over, she has nothing left, so she choses death.

Also, she enjoys 8bit games. And she eventually dreams up a whole 8bit world complete with enemies and a boss. Maybe that's her trying to accept her fate.

It could be that "instructions" is the soul cause of her mental breakdown and eventual death.

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Most of those are in parenthesis.

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But they're still there.

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Maybe them being in parenthesis means they're supposed to be invisible, but they're thrown in for the player's benefit?

>> No.1441   [Delete]   [Edit]

I don't understand what you guys are arguing about. The Instructions are supposed to be from Madotsuki to... herself? On how to go about her life? Which she "realizes" is only a game? And the instructions are what lead her to off herself at the end?

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Hi there... i have read some 2kki theories and played the game. It's really awesome.

Well, i was thinking to make my own theory, but i don't know how to end up my ideas.
Since i know yume 2kki is a kind of "community" project because lots of people help to came up with ideas and new things for the game, i think that Urostsuki has personality dissorders.

I mean, she has very deepd thougths, as if she was traumatized so many imes in her chilhood. Her dreams are very different from each other.
There are many things weird, scary or even funny.

But i cannot realize how this game will end.

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NOTE: I hate to be another victim of the whole rape theory, but I figured that's what happened before I even read the rape theory, and even then mine's drastically different, so don't stop reading just because there is a rape involved.

Maybe Madotsuki was a closet or maybe out of the closet lesbian, and her lover was Poniko. Poniko was just in it for the sex but Madotsuki was in love with her. They got into an argument and then Poniko raped her (yes lesbian rape is possible, even if I don't know how it works). Uboa is Ponikos' inner scariness/ugliness, spawned by the lights going out because love making (or rape in this case) almost always goes on in the dark.
Madotsuki's escape was video games, like Mother which explains the 8-bit world (she's Japanese so she actually has access to this game). All the while she has her escapism, she feels evil inside, (Demon effect is found in the 8-bit world) despite it not being her fault. (A side effect of coming off of a recently ended relationship is self blame) and then changes styles a lot (Long hair effect, Blonde hair effect) to try and appear pretty and/or normal, even though she feels terrible inside, which explains how she got these effects from ugly creatures, reflecting her self loathing. A lot of the other effects are maybe childhood related. Fat effect may be when she was a teenager and was going through weight problems, Poop hair could be when she was being bullied and they threw dog shit or something at her. Witch effect could be a Halloween costume and the flight scene could represent that she was truly happy, almost high if you will, that one year, although it had to end (pressing the 1 key during flight causes you to fall and wake up). She could've biked a lot as a kid, and (if you found the effect that makes you squishy right after you found Bicycle effect like I did) Squishy effect could be her all limp and tired from after bike rides.

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Well to be honest, I wanted to play the game without spoilers, so I haven't looked up any walkthroughs or anything, so I haven't found Monoe yet, or know where she is, so I can't make assumptions yet. (I know who she is though) as for shitai and the mall, I'm not familiar with those terms. Are they places in the game?
Sorry for the n00b questions, but I really don't know XD
Thanks for the feedback BTW.

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Well, Shitai is a "character" (you get an effect from him, but that's about it) and the mall is just a random location.

Also, the FAG is Monoko. :)

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Ahhhh so she's Monoko. Gotcha thanks. Which effect do you get from Shitai and is the mall the place where you get the flute effect?

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Shitai is the dead guy in the Dense Woods that gives you the Stoplight effect. And yes, the mall is the area where you get the Flute.

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Lol, namefag here (tired of posting anonymously).

Anyway, I have this theory I'd love to share, assuming it doesn't sound to stupid.

What if Madotsuki is a stressed out married woman reflecting on her childhood?

Bare with me. Essentially, Madotsuki is a married woman trying her best (yet failing miserably) to adjust to the complexities of adulthood, eventually falling into a deep depression and seeking refuge in nostalgia. I'll try my best to break how each area and character plays into this, starting with...

Madotsuki's Room: First off, I guess I should state that all you see in the game is a dream, even when Mado is "awake". Her "awake-ness" (for lack of a better word) is just adult Mado mental projection of her wanting to be a child again. Her refusing to leave her room is her refusal to face the reality that she can never go back, or her refusing to deal with her problems in an adult way. Her going to sleep is a metaphor for her clearing her mind temporarily, allowing her to fully explore her fantasy childhood dream land.

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Wilderness: This represents Mado thoughts on socializing, specifically school. When it came to socializing with, well, anybody, she felt lost, trapped by her own inadequacies. This ties in with many theories of Madotsuki being outcasted or isolated. The toriningen party is, obviously, the most prominent example of this. She often felt so bad due to social problems that it was like being sick. In addition, she viewed herself as “sick” or wrong (towel effect).

Snow World: Pretty much the same as puddle world, Mado liked playing in the snow, the only difference being that she saw the snow as somewhat of a sanctuary, her own heaven on earth. The Yuki-onna is just that; Madotsuki’s classmates always talked of the Yuki-onna, spreading a rumor that one traversed the land in the winter when it snowed, subjecting unsuspecting travelers to horrific, snow based deaths. Mado believed in the Yuki-onna, seeing her as beautiful and misunderstood. She would dream of meeting the Yuki-onna, who was always kind in her dreams and allowed Mado to tag along with her and become like her, letting her live in a snowy paradise as a beautiful, graceful spirit.
The Pastel Shoal is another interpretation of perfection to Madotsuki. Imagining this beautiful, sparkling, colorful water world always filled Mado with joy (As you can probably tell by now, Madotsuki as a child was often in her own mind). Poniko takes this one step further; she is a resident of Madotsuki’s dreams who was the embodiment of beauty and perfection, being something of a goddess. In her dreams as a child, Madotsuki would often visit Poniko, taking comfort in knowing that this amazing woman was always watching over her, keeping her and her ideal world safe. Revisiting Poniko as an adult (kind of), Mado is relieved to see the same beautiful, perfect person there, until she realizes the light switch. She is not sure why, but she feels compelled to flick it, although she is still afraid of the dark. Subconsciously, she wants to know if Poniko will still be there protecting her in the dark. Flicking the switch, she comes across Uboa. Uboa is Madotsuki’s realization that nothing is perfect, that everything has a dark side to it The fact that she cannot escape indicates that she can’t escape this fact. The world Uboa takes you to is a corruption of the perfect Pastel Shoal.

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>> No.1410   [Delete]   [Edit]

It makes... a whole mess of sense. :O

Seeing her as TRYING to concieve rather than AFRAID she's pregnant is an interesting take on it...

But what about the ending? ; _ ; Any thoughts on thatm or do you think it's what it seems?

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I pretty much saw that as her realizing she can't keep living in the past and metaphorically killing off or giving up the part of her psyche that was keeping her from dealing with her problems in a reasonable way.

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18728 No.1340   [Delete]   [Edit]  [Reply]

These things seem to have genitals.

New theory: Mado once accidentally wandered into a nudist colony fully clothed. People stared.

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This is the best damn reversal of the "Naked Dream" ever.

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Sorry, I was just bored. I know you mean't hands though.

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Sorry, I was just bored. I know you meant meant though.

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74238 No.1228   [Delete]   [Edit]  [Reply]

Madotsuki was the victim of a car accident. The ending is actually the beginning: She was hit by or flung out of the car, and the "dreams" are actually jumbled, lucid memories of the life she led before that she's experiencing as she bleeds to death in the street before the ambulances come. She may have been unconscious, having a dream within a dream.

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Midoro. Draws a lot of pretty YN stuff.

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anyone else thinking Silent hill one?

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The real one or the shitty wii one?

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Has anyone watched the movie 'Stay'?
It's about a world created in the mind of a victim in a car accident moments before his death to make an important decision. Reminds me of this theory.
Pic related

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36997 No.1402   [Delete]   [Edit]  [Reply]

Midget effect has no fanart
No theories
No love. :<

Post some theories of him so he can be loved.

Pic unrelated, due to no midget related pics.

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Maybe Madotsuki feels divided over some issue, an wishes to be able to make the mixed feelings self-destruct, as you can in the dream. And as for the midgetiness, perhaps she feels lesser for her indecision.

/totally did not pull the above out of her ass

picture is related to the want for fanart?

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You clearly didn't take a good look through /mono/ recently.

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son of a-

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Madotsuki felt the world was a really big place. So she felt small. To help sort of conquer her fear, she felt that she needed to somehow be a "one girl army" of some sort, but she was still really small.

/also pulled that out of my ass

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why have i never read any theories about this place?!

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>> No.1377   [Delete]   [Edit]


I was referring specifically to the ghost in the tomb-like area that is accessible from the Sky Garden, the other ghost probably has some symbolic meaning too. That particular apparition isn't involved in this theory though.

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>> No.1378   [Delete]   [Edit]

Damn, never thought of that. That's pretty awesome. About the thirteenth door (Mado's), it might represent the entrance to Xibalba; the other twelve are left to the 12 gods of Xibalba.

Don't all (or most) of the 12 gods have their own domain over forms of suffering or some shit? One could get all into which god represents which door and such.

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Yeah, and they come in pairs, too, complete with ridiculous-sounding names.

There are two that'll kill you if you don't clean your house/sweep your house, two involved with pus and infection... I should get together a list of all of them.

There's also six "Houses" of trials you have to go through at the whim of the gods. "Dark House"(darkness), "Cold House/Rattling House"(hail), Jaguar House(FACING THE ULTIMATE FEAR/GODTHING could be FACE?), "Bat House", "Razor House"(FULL OF SENTIENT KNIVES THAT ATTACK YOU, YEAHR) and "Hot House"(fire) that can be mapped to several effects and areas of YN itself.

The footprint path with the Goppas could be construed as the "river of pus" you'd have to cross on your way down to Xibalba itself.

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Maybe the ghost was someone else who she met who always hung out around the construction area?

Pic related, it's my face while reading your theory.

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11202 No.98   [Delete]   [Edit]  [Reply]

One of my theories is that Poniko is deathly afraid of the dark. She tried to tell Madotsuki that whenever she hit the lightswitch strange things would appear (Uboa) and things in her room would change (the furniture, etc), but Madotsuki didn't believe her, and instead tried to tell her it was her mind playing tricks on her. Poniko tries flipping the lightswitch on and off to show Madotsuki the warped things she sees as a result of her fear but Madotsuki can't see. That's why in her dream world, when Madotsuki turns the lights out, she has a small chance of seeing it like Poniko does.

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Thanks! I saw your image earlier today. That was one of the things that helped me come up with this theory. :D

It would also explain why the lights always come back on as soon as Madotsuki leaves the house!

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Maybe Uboa is just a doll, stuffed toy, or pile of clothes that looks scary when light hits it a certain way.

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I had always thought it was madotsuki's underlining fear of the dark. in other words everyone get's afraid of the dark at some point,but as you get older you get used to it but still at some point that nagging feeling of fear creeping up on you at random. poniko as that subconscious thought of it's nothing, but when she's gone...

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what is this theory doing all the way down here, it needs to be up in the front page.

Good theory, too.

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60388 No.1303   [Delete]   [Edit]  [Reply]

Is it possible that Madotsuki had googly eyes?

Bear with me, I have a lot of unorganized ideas.

Masada also had googly eyes, and wasn't afraid to show them to her, but was a loner because of them.

Madotsuki has her eyes closed for the entire game.

Eyeball world has eyes all over the ground, a hand with an eye in it, and faces with bleeding eyes. Maybe she thought about/ did gouge out her eyes out of shame?

The toriningen were the people who made fun of her.

Maybe because she felt so much shame, she went crazy and started killing those who made fun of her. Poniko had beautiful eyes, and when Madotsuki killed her she gouged them out and kept them as a trophy or something, thus uboa. Monoe could have been a friend who didn't care about her eyes at first, then slowly drifted away because she didn't want to be associated with the "weird girl". Monoko could have been a girl Mado killed by running her over. (This might be going overboard, though)

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>Madotsuki has her eyes closed for the entire game.

cat effect

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Cat effect shows red how do you know its not empty?

>> No.1376   [Delete]   [Edit]

Could just be a part of the effect. Her head isn't really a hand just because of medamaude, etc.

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