The general idea sounds very nice! I find the mirror idea to be cool, too. However, I believe there is already a character named Irotsuki in the fangame department. Pic related

>>3141 orly?

I just called him "Alone" because it made me remember another character of Saint Seiya, The Lost Canvas... XD lol, sorry (view pic)

I am still looking foward to see this game!

>>3141
My Face after reading your post.
FFFFFFF- WAT!?
Well I was somewhat Iffy an the name too... Well now I'm even more... Karafurutsuki isnt taken right!?
Well now you guys can help me name him too...

>>3142
Alone is the cutest villain ever

>>3143
Well, pretty obvious names here, but you could go for Kagetsuki (with/is shadow) or Kagamitsuki.... Kagami (mirror), Hanshatsuki (with/is reflection)...
Well, there are many names you could give to the MC. I went with the game's concept for these name but you could call him something unrelated like Mokuhitsuki or Seijakutsuki (with/is silence).

Also, the game's idea makes me thing Alice. You could call the game "Behind the Looking Glass" or something.
idk idk I should be working on my own game

>>3144
YES! Kagetsuki would do very nicely. There are going to be lots of things relating to shadows in the game... The toriningen equivalents are actually shadows on the ground...
"Behind the Looking Glass" .... That kinda sounds pretty good... I havent read the book but I will to see if any themes in it will go with the themes of the game...

Also I forgot to mention that my good friend PsiWolf674 is the one helping me with most of my stuff. He sprited my character and a few of the effects... He has a thread for his game >>3075 which is much farther in actual game progress.

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Hey Demon, do you want me to post more spritesheets here or should I just send them to you?

EDIT: derp derp just noticed you mentioned me in previous post. :B
Thanks for the mention!

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Ohai Psi
Hmm... Im unsure If i want to show everyone spritesheets for effects and such just yet... Right now I still want people's opinions... But you can go ahead and post some stuff here too. A few little spoilers cant hurt.

I took this yesterday. want it as a paranorma?

Bumpity-bump-bump

>>3327
lol a yellow video game.
Talking about that, what kind of exciting game will be there?

>>3327 Recolours! Oh, BOY!!
Then again I do think the .flow TV is the same one as in Yume Nikki. But...Yellow Video game. What.
By the way, where is Irotsuki from?

>>3345
It will be a verticle side scrolling shooting game ;P Nuff said.

>>3360
As much as I agree with your enthusiasm for recolors, I'm starting to not like my character as much... Also I'm still learning how to sprite since I dont want to borrow/steal things from other games...
And Yes, someone tell me who this Irotsuki is? Does she have a thread here?

No screenshots yet, Im still playing around with RPG Maker...

Just here with a mini little update.
I have gotten the hang of RPG Maker so now I can begin ACTUAL progress with the game. Progress will be slow likely but I'll try to work as much as I can. I suck at spriting so expect recolors... I'll try to have it be original though and not just reuse the sprite.
Well I noticed I didnt talk much about the actually gameplay and how it works, also with the effects and some worlds.
So you enter the Dream/flow/phantasmagoria world by gazing into a mirror. I'm planning to have you save by talking to a flower in Kagetsuki's garden, which will probably be filled with dead plants save the one you save with.
I have quite a few effects planned.
Wolf effect~ Works as the weapon of the game by allowing you to attack or slash NPCs.
Rave effect~ Works like the lamp and/or neon effect.
Psychology/logic Effect~ works like medamaude, using a psychology book to teleport you back to nexus.
Pencil Effect~ Lets you mark the map like the Poop hair effect.

Well what do you guys think? Might get into worlds when I get some maps done...
Also spriting for these effects was done by PsiWolf674

Looking back at my work, I think I could've done better... I'll see if I can redo them to look a little better.
Also, I COMPLETELY forgot I have a tileset for you. I'll send it to you.

Ah, thanks again for all your doing, fail at making my own stuff since I'm so artisticaly challenged! DX
Also I forgot pretty much the rest of my efect ideas since I forgot I have a horrible memory... But I racall a few..
Crow Effect~ pretty much like the Witch effect since there will be alot of flying events...
Keyboard Effect~ instrument effect like flute and headphones.
Undefined Effect~ lets you change your appearance to avoid enemies.
I need a vehicle type effect to make me move faster... Any suggestions guys?
Also dont have any cosmetic/cool pointless effects... Dunno if I should either...

>>3757
A lot of stuff has been done vehicle-wise, but skates, skateboards, motor-scooters and stuff haven't been done.

>>3758
Do running shoes sound too much like Pokemon...? I'm also considering maybe just making one of the existing effects increase speed, like Wolf, Crow, or Rave? (lol PCP Increases hyperawareness doesnt it?) The scooter idea sounds good though.
Also thought of a cosmetic effect; The tree/wood effect, turns your limbs to branches and hair to leaves.

>>3765
Running shoes, to me, sounds like a bit of a cop-out, honestly. (Needing special shoes to run and all, y'know :1?)

UNLESS THEY ARE NIKES!

However, I do think a few cosmetic effects in a game like this are important. Especially if you don't know that they are just cosmetic effects.

Good parts of YN style games is that not everything has a purpose, and sometimes it's just for mental speculation/visual enjoyment, just like when you dream/daydream/flow/mirrorphysics.

This is especially good if you want to give the player some speculation room :3

>>3765
How about a box cutter effect?
It can act as an extra weapon

EDIT: Idea, why not make it so when the player holds the Confirm button down when the Rave effect is equipped, Kagetsuki would turn all neon like Mado did with the Neon effect?
Just an idea.
Also gonna re-sprite some of my shitty spriting.

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And for the Crow effect, do you want to COMPLETELY turn into a crow? Or just grow wings and a beak? Anything specific?
Pic, uh, semi-related

Now that I think about it, the running shoes does sound a bit silly...
Box Cutter wont really fit in with most of the other effects...
I have been wondering the same thing with the Crow effect. Maybe a mix of but, having a Beak and black wings while its equipped, but it can turn into a full on crow that flies around by activating it, much like the cat effect in .flow, or just having the wings could work too... I really should be specific so just go with only the wings for now.

Ah, I liked what you said about speculation room. I'll try to throw stuff in that can allow for that without being totally out there and sticking to the mood I'm aiming to get.

Just realized I'm on my Wii posting this and I use different naemfag naem.

>>3777
Then... do u mind if I use the boxcutter?
(sorry, I'm such a effect whore)
Anyways, I'll sprite Kagetsuki with wings and a beak. I'll also give him alternate sprites that have him as a crow.

...Hey, why not make it so that when Kage transforms into a FULL crow, his speed increases?

Meh, I'm not so fond of how it came out...
But here's Kagetsuki with the crow effect.

EDIT: You may not of noticed, but I edited Kage's spritre ever-so-slightly. Should I keep redoing it?

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Oh my, that sprite came out really nice. I thnk I'll go with that one... And the speed things sounds nice too so unless I can think up a vehicle effect I'll go with that.
You might as well use the box cutter yourself before 2kki decides to take it back. They take all the cool effects and worlds those basterd... I want the Shrine Maiden Effect!! Also the windmill thing (i forget the name). Quickly before they deside to use them in a horrible way! Besides 2kki doesnt even have a theme,mood, or symbol it goes with... Not hating on the game, but I just dont like that... But enough with that...
I kinda want to Toriningen equivalents to be recolors of my recolor character. Shadow, Negative, Rainbow, Girl, and Ghost Kagetsukis will pretty much be the monsters of the game. I'll work on other NPC concepts too...

Hey Demon see how one of those effects in 2kki makes Uro's shoes red? Maybe they were gonna have a running shoes effect lol.

I'll start spriting different versions on Kage.
You could even make them transparent and all ghost like if you want. That always adds a nice effect.
Oh! How about a mangled, beaten-up version that chases you around??

>>3814 I do believe it was scrapped for being a bit lame.

Oh my, Mangled Version you say... I like it alot. A bloody version and Monochrome version could be used to.
Also changing the Pencil effect to let you save anywhere and replacing the Poop hair equivalent with a Green Thumb effect which lets you sprout flowers to mark your path. Not sure what kinds of flowers, maybe lilies.
Damn I thought I was done planning but I guess not... Well effects so far: Wolf, Crow, Pencil, Rave, Psychology/Logic, Undefined, Keyboard, Windmill, Green Thumb, and Shrine Maiden! :D I also though maybe a UFO for a vehicle but I'm unsure since I think I have enough refrences to one game already... also I dont know how the sprite would look, would he turn into the UFO or ride on top...? So far I have 11 effects counting UFO... Owait I have another effect I completely forgot about! Make it 12 then...
Love Effect~ Causes Kage to release a small amout of blue helix sparks, and depending on his location, He will release few or many sparks. (c wat i did thar) It will probably be hell to program but I'll see if its possible, if not I'll leave it out.
I think I'm done with planning more effects, unless I suddenly get inspired by a really good idea like a Candy effect that works like the Cat effect from YN! I not serious about that one due to possible raep theories spawning...

i was reminded of this...

>>3842
This is why Mother was never released outside of Japan.

That actually made me want to add an drunk/high effect but then I remembered 2kki... lol Drank Effect anyone?

Alright. Been working on the backyard.
This is an EARLY WIP so it's of course not what it'll look like in the final product, but just a little preview.
Also, Ookamitsuki's there because I'm working on my game's engine.
Flowers are alive I know, but they're just there to indicate where it will be.
And finally I can change the BG whenever you want.

Here with a little bump...
My project isn't dead, I just fail at spriting and am still playing around with RPG Maker. Plus since I dont have a personal computer of my own, progress is very slow...
To make things more simple, Ive decided not to have maps where you wander around aimlessly while some mindfuck picture floats in the background. Most likely I plan to have the background be the map with somethings you can interact with on the same layer as the player.
Also decided to stick with Phantasmagoria for the title since I think it will match the feel of the game...
Pic related, what the maps will look like.
Taking pictures out of a moving car is one of my hobbies c:

Also thanks Psi for helping, that map is pretty much how I envisioned it.

Do these count as screenshots?
People may know where I am taking these snapshots from...

Clarification on how tha maps work.
You will be able to walk where it looks possible in the picture. You wont be able to walk in the sky part of the picture (although I might make it so you can using the crow effect).
I'll try and put things on the maps to make it less pure eye candy and have some dream like elements to it... Errr Phantasmagoria like elements I mean, though they are prety similar...

Sound stupid? I just kinda wanted to be not so much like other fangames or like the original...

One last one before I go...
Amazingly I take these all myself with my cellphone...

I do like your idea with the photographic/motion blurred/sodium light backgrounds. That is definately going to create some powerful atmosphere.

Big News, I now work 3 days out of the week instead of 2 so my checks come out bigger, which means I will have a personal lappytop for my own to work on my game!

Another picture, next I'll try to have Kagetsuki in the screenshots with maybe an NPC... I dont know how to describe the atmosphere I'm trying to aim for but that feeling you get when you are out and on your own in a big place that doesn't scare you but makes you feel somewhat empowered like you own the night... Well thats the feeling I got while I was out taking these pictures... I'm going to take diferent pictures during different times of the day and on different locations for different, shall we say "feels"...?

Dont worry, the game wil have scary nightmare fuel too, but I will deal with that later... Some graffiti around here has given me some really god ideas for NPCs and not to mention my frequent night terrors.

GUISE WHY DOESNT RPG MAKER LET ME USE MY PICTURES AS PANORAMAS!!! THIS MAKES ME SAD AND FULL OF RAEG!
Also the game breaks whenever I change the face set! I'm using .flow as a base for my game since I dont think I can make everything from scratch. I was originally using Nisshi but I broke the game by using the Kagetsuki face set...
(faceset so obviously made by Psi since idk how to art)

>>4673
To use your pictures as panoramas:

1. make sure they are the right size, 640x640 max.
2. make sure they have been dumbed down to at most 256 color png's I would use dithering and an optimised pallete. I don't know what image editing software you use, but this can easily be accomplished with The GIMP (freeware)

on a further note, when using maximized palletes, there is a minimum amount of colors. if an image is in png and palleted, but won't show, add some more colors somewhere.

>640x640 max

FFFFF- My camera takes pictures that are like 1200x1600!!!
I guess i can resize them but I have no clue about the color thing. Mayube if they where all antique or monochrome style? I'll have to start taking smaller pictures now then...
The quality doesnt seem to be affected when I resize them on my phone but I'm not sure how it will look in game...
I'll have to go on the computer and check now.

You're gonna hafta shrink yer photos. Just go into paint and reduce it by like 50x50 until it's small enough that RPG maker can handle. ALSO; Like yowwie said, be sure you're using bitmap images, the 256 color one at that.

FFFFFF- I cant get it to work! It keeps saying invalid Color depth Even to my black and white pictures!
How do you dither? I am using the standard paint program on Windows 7 on my computer right now...

FFFFFFFFFFF- Even when Shrunken down they dont wok!!
Also how do you take screenshots of your desktop? I got one picture to work but i cant really show it...
Damn this was harder than I expected...

Demon, I'll tell you on DA.
RPG maker is very picky about colors, but you can still make good pics if you use the right tools...

>>4684
Okay, one, you will need something better than paint.

http://www.gimp.org/
It might seem a little complicated, but you will get used to it very fast. Also, I know you don't have your own computer at the moment, so if you can't install it because of that, you may have to ask another /fg/er for an alternative (I am simply telling you how I go about doing this stuff)

Open up any photo you take in this program, shrink it's size down to fit withint 640x640 (the games screen itself is 320 x 240), Image>convert to indexed (either use a pallet or an optomized pallet), and save as a PNG.

The work in this may be difficult, but making a game isn't some simple thing :<

To screen capture, find and press the Prnt Screen button on your keyboard. To only get a certain window, Alt+PrntScreen.

First do this

Then hit this

Then say yes.
If your colors don't look good, send them to me and I'll touch em up

>>4686
Will it work on my Windows 7 if i download it? It says windows XP.... I'll give it a go though.

>>4688
My computer doesnt do that D:

EDIT: i know how the print screen button works now lol
Also I may just send them to you in a rar file since I have quite a few...

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Just send them to me and I'll fix them for you

Sending, thanks for going through all the trouble. I just hope the pictures arent messed up from their original state... I dont even know how I managed to capture them...

It's no trouble at all!
I'll be sure to make them look as good as possible.
I'll be back in ~1 hr.

This is a tad bigger then it should be, but this is overall what the colors should look like.

....Aaaand it looks like it works.
Send me some moar pics and I'll do the same with them
EDIT: Note that I had to cut out the little fence part. I only did this so it would fit on the screen. If you use this as is with the fence, the only thing you'll have to do is make sure that it fits in the map space in RPG maker so there are no blank spaces.

Last edited 10/07/13(Tue)16:16.

Those children from DA. thank you for the tutorial.

...What? I was bored OK?
not to mention Sabitsuki is Wolfie's favorite YN char...

Last edited 10/07/14(Wed)19:46.

>>4727

Why did this send me into fits and giggles?
Would anyone approve of fanart? >U>

>>4731
DO IT

>>4727
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE!?!?

>>4757
...Surprise?

>>4762

Ooooh, busted.

Here's an opinion for you: You seem like you have some good ideas, and I like the feel you're going for in this game with the photographs you've taken. I would suggest you keep going in that direction and image, and stay away from the cliche omg-nightmare-fuel-bloody-hands-eyes-teeth etc. It's overdone and I would much rather see more emotion, like how you have now, rather than trying to copy Yume Nikki's so-called horrific imagery.

The only problem is nothing really looks original. Sure, you've taken your own photos and have come up with your own ideas, but what are you actually making on your own when it comes to content? Your friend is doing all of what you call the "art-related stuff," which is one of the biggest aspects of fangames, and you're using the script from another fangame. It doesn't seem like you're putting any effort into it, which just makes otherwise great concepts bland and uninteresting. Spriting isn't too hard once you get the hang of it and work hard, just maybe look up some tutorials and some references. Get creative.

>>4782
Thanks for the feedback, I was somewhat afraid of it not being to much like YN, but it appears that no one ever wanted it to be like that. I'll reconsider the nightmare fuel stuff, I kinda want to go somewhere else with this game than originally planned and the nightmare stuff wont really fit it now. And you are kinda right about me not puting enough effort... I am kinda busy jugling alot of things and with no laptop of my own, I cant work on it as much as I would like... In the time being I am constantly writing ideas down and taking more photos so I'm not entirely having no progress...

>>4797
It's fine if you're very busy, a fangame shouldn't take up your entire life. It just seems like a waste to me. You've got a good eye for pretty imagery, but you really need to make this fangame into something special for you and by you. There's nothing wrong with getting help, but you shouldn't let other people make your game for you.

And yes, people don't generally want games to be exactly like Yume Nikki--that's where a lot of people go wrong in thinking YN's entire gimmick is nightmare fuel, and simply force it and try to copy that into their game. If people want to play Yume Nikki, they'll play Yume Nikki. But people want to see originality in fangames. I think you're very original and have the right idea, you just need to get away from your dependency and make this project something special.

>>4801
My my random Anon, you really get me reconsidering alot of things... For the better I hope. since I only ever get to go on a computer once every two weeks or so I probably wont be able to creat much progress though... Also I have a folder filled with about 50 pictures that I though were pretty, decent, and useable. I can create a few worlds from this...

Update thingy...
Well I decided to make the game from scratch now instead of using .flow and Nisshi as bases. Which means the game will be filled with crappy sprites and such. I also decided to get rid of a bunch of "unoriginal" Ideas and world and was inspired to come up with new ideas and event.
Also working more so I can get a laptop soon, but now I dont really go out to take more pictures as often... They are also not as good as older ones... Might just create some new worlds from these.

Bump for epic Justice
I discovered on the rides back home I can take many pictures...
Also learning how to sprite and what not, but do not expect!
Project is slow but I am trying to get it done. I hope it can compete with all the other gaems on this board...

sobsobsob My thread is so neglected!
Since idk how to sprite, it takes me forever to make one tile of a tileset... Also scraping some ideas like the main character and gonna try to make a new one, and that takes time too...
But anyway, I decided to get rid of the nexus and make it so when you enter the phantasmagoria state, instead of being transported to the nexus, a series of images would flash by and after pressing a key, it would stop on one image and each images would be its own world. Most of it will be random but after you collect all the effects in one world there will be a smaller chance of being randomly taken there. Also new worlds can be unlocked after certain things and events...
Got inspired since I can never choose my dreams and phantasmagoria is a series of flashing images..
Would that be more frustrating than cool...?
Also seriously running out of things to take pictures of D: